Thoughts about Conversations

Submitted by Liz Baxter on Fri, 06/29/2007 - 1:42pm.

My son and I went to an event at Wieden and Kennedy on June 13th called "A Conversation About the War, Part 2", a followup to an event W&K held four years earlier when the war started. Jelly Helm, who works for W&K (and had helped us with this website) opened the conversation by quoting from several authors, quotes that I wanted to share here because they spoke to me about the Archimedes Movement as well.

From Stephen Miller's "Conversation: A History of a Declining Art" -

The forces sapping conversation seem stronger than the forces nourishing it.

From Al Gore's "Assault on Reason" -

Why has America's public discourse become less focused and clear, less reasoned? Faith in the power of reason - the belief that free citizens can govern themselves wisely and fairly by resorting to logical debate on the basis of the best evidence available,instead of raw power - remains the central premise of American democracy. This premise is now under assault ....

...As a result, our democracy is in danger of being hollowed out. In order to reclaim our birthright, we Americans must resolve to repair the systemic decay of the public forum. We must create new ways to engage in a genuine and not manipulative conversation about our future ...

...the remedy for what ails our democracy is not simply better education (as important as that is) or civic education (as important as that can be), but the re-establishment of a genuine democratic discourse in which individuals participate in a meaningful way - a conversation of democracy in which meritorious ideas and opinions from do, in fact, evoke a meaningful response.

From Margaret Wheatley's book "Turning to One Another: Simple Conversations to Restore Hope to the Future" -

... There is no more powerful way to initiate significant change than to convene a conversation. When a community of people discovers that they share a concern, change begins. There is no power equal to a community discovering what it cares about.

What we (you!) have begun with the Archimedes Movement is more powerful than you may realize.

Liz

Submitted by countrylady_97828 on Sun, 07/01/2007 - 10:53am.
Hi Liz,
I am a new member to the La Grande and Archimedes group.
It sounds like this was a very thought provoking event. The quotes from the various books, especially Al Gores, reminds me of a book I read many years ago by M. Scott Peck, on civil discourse. I can't remember the name of the book right off, but I was very moved by it.
It would be wonderful if this health movement could eventually encompass everyone's basic needs. 
I have to admit I am somewhat skeptical unless discussions are included, soon, about the power the pharmaceutical companies have over medical care, the negative impact and costliness that brings.
Perhaps though, if enough discussion happens, that will also be addressed. 

Pat S

Submitted by Liz Baxter on Sun, 07/01/2007 - 4:50pm.

Pat - welcome and I hope we get to meet when I'm next out in La Grande. The session on the war was very interesting - mostly because all the participants agreed that it will be civic engagement and communities making their goals known to each other that will change the course we're on. This was a group that included supporters of the war and opponents and yet, there was no disagreement on the power of the people's voice to make change. I'll have to head to the library and look for the book you mention. thanks -

Liz

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